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Max Garcia Jersey , so which QBs have been the best investments in terms of wins in the modern NFL?"The Seattle Seahawks just handed Russell Wilson the most yearly money of any player in NFL history.This got me thinking about the ROI (return on investment) that teams get for these crazy QB contracts (*note: all data for this comes from Spotrac.com and pro-football-reference.com). If Wilson’s cap hit for 2019 is $35 million, that means Seattle will have almost 19 percent of its salary cap tied up in one player. Spotrac has a tool that shows the entire career earnings by position if you want to see it, so I looked at the career earnings for the top 100 modern QBs (some QBs did not show up in their list, suchas Steve Young and Joe Montana, no idea why) and then found how many wins each QB had led his team(s) to. I divided money by wins to find the best and the worst QBs in terms of ROI. Note that the guys on the “bad” are mainly career backups who got paid large sums to hold clipboards and wear a headset. I also looked at the total number of passes thrown and figured out how much each of these QBs made per pass. Chase Daniel is the king of making a fine living as QB2. He has earned $28.3 million in his NFL career and has exactly two NFL wins to his name. Daniel has made an insane $184K for every NFL pass he has thrown. Among starting QBs, Sam Bradford has made the most money for the least results with Matthew Stafford a distant second (worst). Starting QBs like Jimmy Garoppolo and Baker Mayfield should turn into much better investments IF they start producing winning seasons for their teams on a regular basis. It is interesting to note that both Kirk Cousins and Aaron Rodgers are in the top 20 worst ROI QBs. Two former Bronco QBs are in the top 30 worst ROI - Brock Osweiler, by virtue of that huge contract Houston threw him, and Mark Sanchez have both made more than $2 million for every NFL victory they have “authored.”I realize I have not adjusted this to constant dollars to normalize the QBs who played in the 80s and 90s with the QBs who are playing today. Someone with more of a finance/accounting background should do that since I don’t have the time nor inclination to do so. That being said, Jim Kelly, John Elway and Dan Marino produced with a tremendous ROI relative to modern starting QBs. Elway earned $307K for every victory he authored, while Jim Kelly earned less than $300K. Of course, here in the real world where the rest of us live, $300K is a lot of money and probably more than many of us earn in a year. However, in the NFL, if you have the skills to play QB at an elite level like 0.00000001% of the world’s population can, you could have earned a lot of money even 40 years ago in the NFL. Aaron Rodgers makes roughly $37K every time he throws a pass. John Elway earned about $6K. How’s that for inflation? Currently Peyton Manning holds the record for most money earned by an NFL player during his career (according to Spotrac). He earned about a quarter of a billion dollars playing in the NFL (that does not include endorsement money). His brother Eli is poised to pass him next season. Eli Manning currently has earned $235 million and has $5 million guaranteed for next season even if he is cut prior to June 1. If he makes the roster, he gets another $5 million roster bonus and can earn another $6.5 in base salary if he plays for the Giants in 2019 - bringing his salary for 2019 up to $16.5 million. That would put him in first place all-time in earning for an NFL player. Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees and Tom Brady could all end up in that No. 1 spot in a couple of years. That was a total team failure. The defense was poor (and that will be the focus here), but so were the offense and the special teams. The Denver Broncos looked ill-prepared and, in some instances, uninterested in all three phases of the game. The New York Jets came into the game averaging 88 yards rushing per game. In their previous game (against a good defense) the Jets had gained 34 rushing yards on 14 attempts (2.43 ypc). The Jets had four individual runs against us that gained more than they gained in their entire game against Jacksonville. They gained 324 on 37 carries (8.76 ypc) - I removed the kneel-down. The Broncos defense had allowed 375 total rushing yards in the first four games, then game up 323 in one single game. Since the merger there have only been 38 times where a team has given up 320 or more yards on the ground. Denver has now been on the wrong end of four of them (five if you include the game in 2010 where we gave up 317 yards rushing):324 vs NYJ 2018328 vs OAK 2010 @ home (59-14 loss that got McDaniels fired)317 vs KC in 2010407 vs CIN 2000 (most allowed since the merger)332 vs NE in 1976I really didn’t want to look at the first down run numbers because the runs of 77, 54 and 38 yards ALL came on first down. Let me restate that, on first down, when a team with a lead and a rookie QB might be expected to run, the Jets had runs of 77, 54, 38 yards. I did look anyway Dalton Risner Denver Broncos Jersey , it was like a train wreck, I couldn’t not look. The Jets ran the ball 19 times on first down for 215 yards. That is 11.30 ypc. Isaiah Crowell set an NFL record for ypc for a back with 15 or more carries at 14.70 ypc. The Broncos are now allowing 5.74 ypc on first down runs. That’s 30th in the league. Only DET (6.40) and KC (5.94) are currently worse. Overall we are allowing 5.43 ypc which is also 30th in the league with only KC (5.81) and DET (5.68) worse. The Saints are currently best in the league at stopping the run allowing only 3.29 ypc. Surprisingly, the Broncos were able to force the Jets into eight 3rd and long situations (on 13 3rd downs). The Jets were able to convert on three of those and two of those conversions were TD passes. Supposedly, we have an elite pass rushing unit, a unit that should be virtually impossible to block on 3rd and long. That has not been the case this year. The Broncos defense has forced 35 3rd and long situations this year and has exactly one sack in those situations, and that was in the first game of the season when we got six sacks. Since the first game of the season our hyped pass rush has five sacks in four games. That is one of the reasons we have allowed conversion on 11 of those 35 (31.4%) which is 25th in the league. Denver is also worst in the league having allowed 4 TDs on 3rd and long. We are also worst in the league allowing 9.71 yards per play on 3rd and long situations. Oddly enough, our next opponent the Rams, had been worst in the league so far this year at stopping teams on 3rd and long. They have allowed conversion on 15 of 30 3rd and long situations (50%), but I’m sure that is not Wade Phillips’ fault (He can do no wrong). Moving BackwardThe 2018 Broncos appear to getting worse week by week. The season, that started so promisingly with a fairly decisive win over the Seahawks, has now derailed so badly that some are talking about tanking the season to finish 2-14 and get another top 5 draft pick. Selfishly I would like to keep the streak going where the Broncos have not had back-to-back losing seasons since the time of the merger, but I don’t know how realistic that hope is. The weaknesses that we knew were going to be there have been exploited:a weak secondary, after CB1, with age/injury concerns an inability to cover RBs and TEsan inability to sustain drives on offense (although we hope Case Keenum and Musgrave might be able to change this)a LT who has poor technique, a hot head and propensity to hold and things that we thought were going to be strengths have turned into weaknessesour pass rush has disappearedour strong running game is being horribly underutilized (Royce Freeman had 5 carries last game)our journeyman QB who was great at protecting the ball last season has thrown more INTs than TDsour run defense, which was elite last season, was just made into the laughingstock of the leagueour strong group of WRs are not able to get YAC because our QB, whose stock and trade has always been accuracy, has not been very accurateThe holes are too many and new ones seem to appear faster than we can fix them. Our coaching staff is getting out-schemed and out-coached on a weekly basis, and now we face the Rams, arguably the best team in the league, on the road with possibility that both of our starting offensive tackles miss the game. On paper this looks like it should be a thorough beatdown by the Rams. Two running backs who have been average at best for the majority of their NFL careers, just gashed our run defense for 318 rushing yards on 35 carries. What do you think Todd Gurley is going to do? Our pass rush, which has evaporated since game one, is now going against the best two offensive tackles in the game. We just allowed a rookie QB who came into the game with one of the worst QB ratings in the league to put up a QB rating of 98.1 against us. What do you think Jared Goff is going to be able to do against the #FrequentFlyerZone (or the #NoTryZone)?I have no expectations that the Broncos are even going to keep this game close. That being said, if the Broncos some how pull off the upset on Sunday (any given Sunday) it would go a long way to salvaging this season (if you still believe that it is salvagable).

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